http://a-phale.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] a-phale.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2006-11-20 11:55 pm
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Good Omens...And Bad: Prophecy in Theory and Practice, Class Eleven

Monday, November 19, First Period

There are gingersnaps and pie along with the usual breakfast pastries and evil tea and other hot beverages. If Aziraphale seems to be keeping a closer than usual eye on Nadia, there's probably no reason for that.

LECTURE: "Today we'll discuss the public perception of prophecy and seers. Throughout history, those gifted -- or cursed, depending on how you see it -- with the ability to foretell the future have been generally viewed in one of three ways: as a true and benevolent prophet, as a practitioner of dark sorcery, or as a con artist. Sometimes that perception was based on societal beliefs, sometimes on religion, sometimes on one's personal belief or disbelief in mysticism.

I'd like each of you to share with the class two things: first, tell us how the concept of 'telling the future' is seen by the society in which you grew up. Then tell us how you personally view the concept, and whether your experiences since leaving home have affected your beliefs. When our discussion is finished, you can have the remainder of the class to work with your project groups."

HOMEWORK: "Now that each project group has handed in the prophecies they wrote, I'm going to assign each of those projects to a different group. The second half of your class project is to take that prophecy and produce an interpretation. Remember, the important part isn't whether or not you get the same interpretation as the original group intended, but that you demonstrate what you've learned in class. These projects are due on December 18th, when you'll be presenting them to the class.

Two important notes: First -- Due to the loss of two of your classmates, I've had to reassign two students to new groups. Mr Joxer, you'll be working with Mr Carson, the Misters Winchester, and Miss Summers. Miss Rutledge, you'll be working with Mr Sandburg, Miss Halliwell, Mr Belthazor, and Miss Brown. Second -- Mr Blank, Mr Connor, Miss Belacqua, and Mr Weiss: I haven't received your final project. Please turn it in by the end of class today, or your group will receive a zero for this assignment.**"

PROJECTS:
Group One (Blair, Phoebe, Belthazor, Lavender): Group Two's project
Group Two (Anders, Nadia, Walter, Pippi): Group Four's project**
Group Three (Bridge, Dean, Dawn, Sam, Joxer): Group One's project
Group Four (Marty, John Connor, Lyra, Eric): Group Three's project

**Note: If Group Four's project is handed in today, I'll add a link for Group Two to use. If no project is handed in, I'll assign one of the other projects and we'll have two groups working independently on the same prophecy. Group Four has handed in their project, so everyone has their assignment now.

"One other note, and then you may use the rest of class to work on your projects: Mr Carson, Miss Belacqua, and Miss Santos, please see me after class or at my office hours. And everyone, remember that there'll be no lab this Friday, due to the holiday. I hope you all have a very enjoyable Thanksgiving if you celebrate, or long weekend if you don't."

Absences:
Bridge Carson: one class, one lab excused
Lyra Belacqua: one lab

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Nadia "the dragonslayer" Santos

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[identity profile] bridge-carson.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Upon hearing the discussion topic, Bridge suddenly finds the tabletop very, very interesting.

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[identity profile] cantgetnorelief.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Which Anders notices, and knowing Bridge he thinks he has an idea of what brought on that reaction.

"Hey," he says quietly, leaning over. "You okay, man?"

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[identity profile] strongestgirl.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't think Pirates or the Swedish have anything against telling the future persae... Most Nautical types often seek such things out... Except my grandfather, Fabe, he didn't like the idea of telling a person's future. Seemed to think most people couldn't deal with such knowledge rationally..."

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[identity profile] saltandammo.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't think society at large seriously believe that telling the future is ever anything but a hoax. As for hunters..." Dean trailed off thoughtfully then shrugged. "They're more likely to believe it if they come across the real thing, but I think most of them think 'probably hoax' too. As for me... if you asked me a year ago, I would've said hoax too. But when it happens close to home you become a believer really fast."
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[personal profile] likethegun 2006-11-20 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam looked a little guilty at that last part, although he directed most of his look towards the floor.

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[identity profile] lovechildblair.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"Even though I grew up around people on the outskirts of normal thinking, not many people believed in fortune tellers." Blair shrugged. "I don't know that I thought too much on it until I came here and I realized that not only was it true, but that it was helpful too."
likethegun: (i'm looking up at you)

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[personal profile] likethegun 2006-11-20 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think Dean's totally right about what the kinds of people we grew up around think about telling the future," Sam said. "Even if they saw it for themselves, they probably wouldn't believe it, and if they did, they might not exactly have the highest opinion about it. As for me...I think it's safe to say that my experience since leaving home has changed my beliefs," he added, with a touch of sarcasm.

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[identity profile] lilpunkinbelly.livejournal.com 2006-11-21 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
"Um," Dawn thought about that, "well, the huge society where I grew up usually thinks seers or psychics are running a huge honking scam. The little society of people who know better find them theoretically helpful, although they're usually very vague and not so much with the usefulness unless you've got a seer-to-English dictionary and a calendar handy."

She glanced over at Sam, and then at Bridge. "My experiences since being here have shown me that there's a downside to being a seer."

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[identity profile] apocalypsesoon.livejournal.com 2006-11-21 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
"They tend to view the 'seers' as fakes. Or crazy. Or insane and heavily armed, in the case of my mother. And... my views haven't really changed, much. I know there's fakes, crazy people, and insane heavily armed people, and some real seers."

Re: Talk Amongst Yourselves

[identity profile] strongestgirl.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Pippi is doodling at her desk.

She's not composing love haiku about a certain one eyed Frenchman in Swedish.
sensethevisions: (Phoebe Studious)

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Phoebe is distracted and seems to be taking notes.
demonbelthazor: (Crossed arms)

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[personal profile] demonbelthazor 2006-11-20 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Bel looked exceptionally cranky this morning.
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[personal profile] nadiathesaint 2006-11-20 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
A crumpled up note full of profuse apologies for her behavior this weekend was tossed at Bel's desk.

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[identity profile] saltandammo.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Dean nudged his gloomy looking brother. "It's not a bad thing y'know."

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[identity profile] cantgetnorelief.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Anders was kind of dazed and distracted this morning, and his notes consisted mostly of random squiggly lines on the paper.

. . . no reason. Really.
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"Mr. Phale, sir?" Nadia hurried up to Aziraphale when she was pretty sure no one else would be listening. "I am so, so, so, so, so sorry I thought you were evil this weekend."

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"Uh, sir?" Bridge says, frowning slightly as he approaches the teacher after class.

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[identity profile] oatmanspatient.livejournal.com 2006-11-20 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Marty walks forward and hands off a handwavy paper on Ouija boards including a series of experiments that never happened failed utterly. "Sorry we didn't get this to you last week."