http://clevermsbennet.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] clevermsbennet.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomhigh2009-02-11 11:41 pm
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Literature, Class 6: Period 3, Thursday, February 12

Miss Elizabeth Bennet had quite nearly recovered from her weekend's misadventures, though one should inquire after axes only at one's own peril.

"Today," she said, "we are going to revisit the subject that should have held last week: identity. It seems particularly topical, as many of us found our identities transformed of late, as per Fandom's whims."

"Identity changes a work, both from the author's perspective as well as readers. One's perceptions and background form the lens through which one views a work, and thus, readers with quite different life experiences may view fundamental aspects of the text in new ways, or with new shades of meaning. Critics argue that the text is objective, not subjective -- that it can be seen on its own merits, and how the reader interprets it is secondary. I am not so certain that I agree. Who would the impartial reader be, who can separate his own self from the text? If I feel the heroine in this novel is sweet, and you find her to be false and cloying, which of us is right? Can we say for certain which the author intended, and if so, is that the final word on the matter?"

"Let us, for one moment, presume to place individuals into specific categories: one's sex, one's age, one's social standing, one's culture, one's economic status, and so forward. Let us then add one more layer, which is each individual's history, observations, morals, and the like. These categories might be thought to influence the works one reads. A young boy, raised on a farm, might be fond of horses, and could therefore find books of horse-racing to be quite exciting. An older gentleman who was an experienced jockey might likewise reach for the tale, eagerly, while a wealthy society matron may feel that horses are thoroughly uninteresting. A girl whose uncle lost a great deal of money on horse-racing may dislike the novel most of all."

She lifted her shoulders lightly. "It sounds straightforward, but people are more complex than that. The young boy from the farm may feel that forcing the horse to compete in a race is ridiculous, when it could be pulling a carriage or a plough. The experienced jockey may be tired of that life, or may find the story to be highly inaccurate as regards his own experiences. The wealthy society matron could herself drawn in by a world the likes of which she has never imagined, and the girl may wish to understand what it was that held such lure for her uncle's path to ruin."

"I am not meaning to imply that identity studies, or reader-responses, are this simplistic," she explained. "They most certainly aren't. My brief example of the horse-racing story was simply to show that what appeals to us in a work is intrinsic to who we are as individuals. Perhaps the reason I find that heroine so sweet is that she reminds me greatly of my sister Jane, whereas you have never known someone who behaves in that manner, and are suspicious of her motivations. You might argue that the heroine is only hoping to appear sweet, and is scheming and plotting her way through life, falling back on her presumption of innocence when all else fails. If the author never intended that reading of the work, is it still a valid interpretation? There are critics who believe that Tolkien's King of the Bracelets was an allegory for the great war which took place during that time; Tolkien himself denied it. Could he have written it as an unintentional allegory? Might one say that it functions as one, if the author did not intend for it to be so? Are alternate readings of a text valid, or are they simply illustrative of the ways in which we are fundamentally different in worldviews and perceptions -- an interesting literary exercise, but nothing more?"

She stopped pacing, glancing around the room again. "The author must have his share in this. The works considered to be 'classics' were largely those written by wealthy English and European men. Which suggests that either women and men from other cultural backgrounds simply weren't writing as much as Anglican men, that their works were markedly inferior on an objective scale, or that those responsible for identifying 'classics' were by and large Anglican men, who favored works written from similar perspectives. This is a rather telling point for the response crowd, I might add, but let us continue. A man writes of actions which would be seen as normal and unremarkable during his lifetime, and seems to condone them; later, history condemns those same behaviors, as well as his tale. Should we view the story through his lens, or ours? Lest you think this is strictly hypothetical, I regret to inform you that Shakespeare himself wrote a play which is quite highly anti-Semitic, which would not be wholly remarkable in society at that time. Critics argue that you might read the character sympathetically, or even that Shakespeare himself intended to portray him as such, but certain aspects of the play make either reading -- slanderous or sensitive -- difficult. The situation is problematical, to say the least."

She smiled at everyone. "One last note, simply as an amusing exercise. If you were not yourself this past weekend, do you feel that your experiences as another person will influence your perspectives, when reading? Have they added to what works you may enjoy, or find distasteful?"
peace_n_war: (Shirtless yay)

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[personal profile] peace_n_war 2009-02-12 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Warren Peace

Who had no AU this year, so have a shirtless distraction from a different movie!

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[identity profile] flashesforinfo.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
Angela Montenegro

Who also had no AU... uh, here, have boobies.

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[identity profile] ambassadorinara.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Inara Serra

Who was also not AU'ed, but who makes a lovely villianess

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[identity profile] thismaskiwear.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Katina Choovanski -- LOOK OUT BELOW!
not_in_the_book: (Plot: AU Weekend - Peach 1)

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[personal profile] not_in_the_book 2009-02-12 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Ronan Nolan

Who had no AU this year, so here, have last year's.

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[identity profile] shyest-eyes.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hyuuga Hinata

Who had no AU this time so, uh, have a Juliet instead.
likethegun: (i'm plastic to the right)

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[personal profile] likethegun 2009-02-12 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam Winchester

Ah, the ghost of AUs past...

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[identity profile] chic-harper.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Harper Finkle

Who hasn't done the AU thing yet so here! Have something random

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[identity profile] therhimineecat.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Seregil i Korit

Who also had no au this year, so this is last year's
iamnotallgirl: (Jack plotting mischief)

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[personal profile] iamnotallgirl 2009-02-13 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Jill McTeague

Who had no AU self, unless you count the one that comes built in

Re: Sign In [LIT-6]

[identity profile] not-fangirl.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Temari

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[identity profile] flashesforinfo.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
Angela was busily taking notes during the lecture.

This week as a whole seemed to be determined to have her filling pages with this sort of thing. Far more than usual.

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[identity profile] stupid-toasters.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
There was a lot of information in the lecture but, after being someone so...not him this weekend, it made Lee focus a little more.

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[identity profile] ambassadorinara.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Inara took a lot of notes, although she did daydream at points while she imagined what she'd have liked reading if she'd been raised like Kaylee.

Maybe she'd just go ask the other girl about her preferences later.

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[identity profile] thismaskiwear.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Katchoo was actually paying attention to the lecture today, yes, as she'd been tending to do more or less all semester so far. It explained a lot, she thought, about her lack of interest in most books.

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[identity profile] chic-harper.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Harper took notes and wondered what it would be like to be someone else, like Gigi. The thought made her wince. No one should have to be like Gigi. It'd be too cruel.
likethegun: (i'm writing something)

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[personal profile] likethegun 2009-02-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, how Sam loved Thursdays and all his thinky, note-taking classes.

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[identity profile] finding-x-dream.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Agnes took detailed notes, and tried to consider the topic from all angles.
iamnotallgirl: (Jill sidelong)

Re: During the Lecture [LIT-6]

[personal profile] iamnotallgirl 2009-02-13 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Jill took copious and assiduous notes during the lecture. This topic was actually of interest to her, and also she was the sort who wanted the teacher to notice she was being a good student.

Re: Discussion #1: Reader Response and Identity [LIT-6]

[identity profile] flashesforinfo.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
"I think you can't really help but be influenced by your experiences when you're reading," Angela said, tapping her pen absently against her hand. "I go a little both ways, depending on my mood. Some days, I want something you know and that's familiar, and others something completely new and different."

Re: Discussion #1: Reader Response and Identity [LIT-6]

[identity profile] finding-x-dream.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
"People are sort of stuck with themselves, aren't they?" Agnes asked. "I mean, it's a good thing to try to see the world through other peoples' eyes, but in the end, behind those eyes are still your own. I'm not sure you can separate yourself from your opinion of a book."

Re: Discussion #2: Fluidity of the Text [LIT-6]

[identity profile] finding-x-dream.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm sure the author had something in mind when writing a book, and we should probably try to consider that first, but the author can't help but put their subconscious into it, and everyone is going to react to things differently, so... Well, objectively there IS a text, if you're talking about words on the page, but what they mean is really anyone's guess. You could probably have a lot of fun, too, trying to read into a work subtext that the author didn't actually add to it."

Re: Discussion #3: Works Outside of Their Cultural Backgrounds [LIT-6]

[identity profile] finding-x-dream.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
"Is accurate really the right word?" Agnes asked. "After all, BOTH readings are just as valid. Of course, it WILL affect how you like the work, and how you feel about it."

Re: Speak to the TA [LIT-6]

[identity profile] shyest-eyes.livejournal.com 2009-02-12 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Hinata was, in fact, herself and had been so all weekend. After having listened to radio she was very grateful of this fact.